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	<title>Comments on: Widespread rumors of Ukraine bioterrorism</title>
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		<title>By: Mi Kai Lee</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Mi Kai Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may wish to see this video about what&#039;s going on in Ukraine -
&lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTe_Q0NxHg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTe_Q0NxHg&lt;/a&gt;

The Ukraine government is acknowledging much of this, but says it has not authorized much of what is happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may wish to see this video about what&#8217;s going on in Ukraine -<br />
<a type="external" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTe_Q0NxHg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTe_Q0NxHg</a></p>
<p>The Ukraine government is acknowledging much of this, but says it has not authorized much of what is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Mi Kai Lee</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Mi Kai Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ukraine health ministry acknowledges today (Nov 11) – &lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.moz.gov.ua/ua/main/press/?docID=14054&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.moz.gov.ua/ua/main/press/?docID=14054&lt;/a&gt;
that the million-plus cases it calls H1N1 are frequently complicated with additional bacterial infections. I think we can safely interpret this as refering to all the acute respiratory cases that they are still just lumping in with the flu, because that is how everyone has always reported flu / pneumonia / flu-like illness — all in one category.

But one important note – they are saying “bacterial infections” (актеріальних інфекцій), not viral infections. Now, flu, SARS and the like are viral, while pneumonic plague and anthrax are bacterial. I think this helps a lot in identifying what people are NOT getting sick from – it cannot be H1N1 if it is bacterial, but it could be plague, as many people suggest.

Early reports said that it did not respond to anti-biotics, which would tend to indicate that they considered it bacterial (that’s what antibiotics are for) – but for some reason antibiotics did not work, further supporting the suggestion of weaponized plague.

Please keep in mind, however, that there may be translation problems distinguishing antibiotic from antiviral …

Cases today (Nov 11) are reported to be over 1,100,000 in Ukraine and about 250,000 in Belarus near Kiev.

This article in Russian on Nov. 1 -
&lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2009/11/01/68887.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2009/11/01/68887.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
does indeed suggest that it is weaponized pneumonic plague and says that the number of deaths was 1500, at a time when only around 40 were being officially reported.

All fingers in this matter seem to point to US-based Baxter and from there to Rockefeller’s health trust, with close connections to Silverstein and others involved in 9/11. Interesting how we are now at 2009/11 … and today it is 09/11/11

All it would take is the right international crisis – a second 9/11 – and the world may very well agree to their “new world order” at the upcoming Copenhagen summit. I wouldn’t put it past them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ukraine health ministry acknowledges today (Nov 11) – <a type="external" href="http://www.moz.gov.ua/ua/main/press/?docID=14054" rel="nofollow">http://www.moz.gov.ua/ua/main/press/?docID=14054</a><br />
that the million-plus cases it calls H1N1 are frequently complicated with additional bacterial infections. I think we can safely interpret this as refering to all the acute respiratory cases that they are still just lumping in with the flu, because that is how everyone has always reported flu / pneumonia / flu-like illness — all in one category.</p>
<p>But one important note – they are saying “bacterial infections” (актеріальних інфекцій), not viral infections. Now, flu, SARS and the like are viral, while pneumonic plague and anthrax are bacterial. I think this helps a lot in identifying what people are NOT getting sick from – it cannot be H1N1 if it is bacterial, but it could be plague, as many people suggest.</p>
<p>Early reports said that it did not respond to anti-biotics, which would tend to indicate that they considered it bacterial (that’s what antibiotics are for) – but for some reason antibiotics did not work, further supporting the suggestion of weaponized plague.</p>
<p>Please keep in mind, however, that there may be translation problems distinguishing antibiotic from antiviral …</p>
<p>Cases today (Nov 11) are reported to be over 1,100,000 in Ukraine and about 250,000 in Belarus near Kiev.</p>
<p>This article in Russian on Nov. 1 -<br />
<a type="external" href="http://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2009/11/01/68887.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2009/11/01/68887.shtml</a><br />
does indeed suggest that it is weaponized pneumonic plague and says that the number of deaths was 1500, at a time when only around 40 were being officially reported.</p>
<p>All fingers in this matter seem to point to US-based Baxter and from there to Rockefeller’s health trust, with close connections to Silverstein and others involved in 9/11. Interesting how we are now at 2009/11 … and today it is 09/11/11</p>
<p>All it would take is the right international crisis – a second 9/11 – and the world may very well agree to their “new world order” at the upcoming Copenhagen summit. I wouldn’t put it past them.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, wow is right. Where is the msm on this one, to busy trying to have us filling our diapers running for a vaccination based on a contrived shortage. There is no shortage of this swine flu vaccine. I wouldn&#039;t take it short of seeing David Rockefeller himself roll up his sleeve and get in line right in front of me. Sorry msm and Harper et al, it aint happening. Check this out folks, then let me know how anxious you are to get it..

&lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=90%3Athe-baxterwho-case&amp;catid=42%3Arokstories&amp;lang=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=90%3Athe-baxterwho-case&amp;catid=42%3Arokstories&amp;lang=en&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, wow is right. Where is the msm on this one, to busy trying to have us filling our diapers running for a vaccination based on a contrived shortage. There is no shortage of this swine flu vaccine. I wouldn&#8217;t take it short of seeing David Rockefeller himself roll up his sleeve and get in line right in front of me. Sorry msm and Harper et al, it aint happening. Check this out folks, then let me know how anxious you are to get it..</p>
<p><a type="external" href="http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=90%3Athe-baxterwho-case&amp;catid=42%3Arokstories&amp;lang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=90%3Athe-baxterwho-case&amp;catid=42%3Arokstories&amp;lang=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vancouverite</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Vancouverite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this article was linked to by the Ukraine World and Pneumonic Plague Blog
Salmon Arm of all places, gets the news that the morons at CTV and Global don&#039;t want you to hear.

Salmon Arm residents can stay updated on this and other important world developments by listening to The Alex Jones show daily, live and constant re-feed, at &lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.infowars.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.infowars.com&lt;/a&gt; and please please please go to You Tube and watch The Fall of the Republic and make sure all your friends do so as well

&lt;a type=&quot;external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this article was linked to by the Ukraine World and Pneumonic Plague Blog<br />
Salmon Arm of all places, gets the news that the morons at CTV and Global don&#8217;t want you to hear.</p>
<p>Salmon Arm residents can stay updated on this and other important world developments by listening to The Alex Jones show daily, live and constant re-feed, at <a type="external" href="http://www.infowars.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.infowars.com</a> and please please please go to You Tube and watch The Fall of the Republic and make sure all your friends do so as well</p>
<p><a type="external" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU</a></p>
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		<title>By: ehswan</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>ehswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK more.  &quot;Airborn arisols&quot; dumb.  But aircraft spraying airisolized bioweapons could explain the sudden spike in infections as many people would be infected at once, and then the rate of infection would fall off as the &quot;official numbers&quot; now indicate.  If there is a connection between the &quot;Aircraft spraying&quot; and the populations infected it should be easilly discernable.  The infection would blossom in those areas and then fade outwards rapidly.  PS.  I&#039;m no epidemiologist, just using common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK more.  &#8220;Airborn arisols&#8221; dumb.  But aircraft spraying airisolized bioweapons could explain the sudden spike in infections as many people would be infected at once, and then the rate of infection would fall off as the &#8220;official numbers&#8221; now indicate.  If there is a connection between the &#8220;Aircraft spraying&#8221; and the populations infected it should be easilly discernable.  The infection would blossom in those areas and then fade outwards rapidly.  PS.  I&#8217;m no epidemiologist, just using common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: ehswan</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>ehswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the reports of aircraft spraying at night over populated areas in Ukraine on the 29th of october and the numbers of infected swelling by over 1 million since then, and then the numbers falling off now are true, then it seems like the people of Ukraine were the victims of a biological attack.  A lot of cred hangs on the numbers.  If over a million people were infected in 9, or so days something other than person to person transmission was responsible,  LIKE AIRBORN ARISOLS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the reports of aircraft spraying at night over populated areas in Ukraine on the 29th of october and the numbers of infected swelling by over 1 million since then, and then the numbers falling off now are true, then it seems like the people of Ukraine were the victims of a biological attack.  A lot of cred hangs on the numbers.  If over a million people were infected in 9, or so days something other than person to person transmission was responsible,  LIKE AIRBORN ARISOLS!</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned consumer</title>
		<link>http://shuswapnews.com/2009/11/09/widespread-rumors-of-ukraine-bioterrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being sprayed on? Sounds like the manner in which mushrooms are cultivated - keep them in the dark and every so often open the door and throw &#039;compost&#039; on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being sprayed on? Sounds like the manner in which mushrooms are cultivated &#8211; keep them in the dark and every so often open the door and throw &#8216;compost&#8217; on them.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
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		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good report ... thank you.

Just once and forever, one thing needs correction: Baxter didn&#039;t ship their contaminated material to 18 countries, but to  18 LABS in 4 COUNTRIES, i.e. Austria (source country), Czech Republic, Germany and Slovenia. 

If you use the misinfo in your otherwise good report, it looks like the research was not profound and the entire report gets vulnerable. That should not be ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good report &#8230; thank you.</p>
<p>Just once and forever, one thing needs correction: Baxter didn&#8217;t ship their contaminated material to 18 countries, but to  18 LABS in 4 COUNTRIES, i.e. Austria (source country), Czech Republic, Germany and Slovenia. </p>
<p>If you use the misinfo in your otherwise good report, it looks like the research was not profound and the entire report gets vulnerable. That should not be &#8230;</p>
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